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Identification Please?

Discussion in 'Disease and Illness' started by SteveO, Apr 25, 2008.

  1. SteveO

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    Now you guys knew I was going to get on your nerves with the scope! :chuckle:

    One of my Pigeon Silvers I had off Kev has been looking a bit 'vacant' lately (for the last week) and has been hovvering near the surface (not gasping) and hasn't eaten in a while.

    I waited patiently for the 'white poo' and sure enough it came today.

    I just scoped it at x600 and x1500 (immersion), the results are in the slides attached. There are hundreds of these critters, they are seemingly dead... not sure if the cover glass pressure crushed them. They have a nucleus at a certain angle and seem to have an opening at each end.

    Can anyone identify this please? so I can treat accordingly... ta

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    capillaria. 99% sure. panacur in food very good to fix. 1gram panacur granules to 100 grams beefheart feed twice a day for three days, then repeat a week later.
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    I agree with you both.

    Will F15 kill these guys?
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    F15 ????
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    flubenol 15

    a big wormer if i recall correctly.
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    I know panacur is fenbendazole, just wondered if Flubendazole would do the same job... I have enough for 10,000 gallons :chuckle:

    Yes it was originally used/intended as pig wormer but has up until recently been sold for worming fish too..
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    pm sent Steve and Flubendazole will also deal with it. Panacur in food only is a proven method though.
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    I treated the fish with Flubendazole (Flubenol 15) as I didn't want any other fish coming down with the same...

    two days later and the tank was full of white stringy crap... you guessed... I scoped it! :chuckle:

    I believe these slides are revealing dead adult worms (there were many) with eggs still inside and also dead eggs.

    I am going to treat again with Levimasole (as have a non-eater) to make sure the job is done.

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    Was the F-15 in water or food?
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    Oh and yes dead capillaria worms with eggs.
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    It was in food Paul, still have one not eating though :(
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    I'd isolate the non eater and dose the water in that tank with f-15.
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    So am I isolating the non-eater in another tank and then treating the water with the rest of the fish?.. or the other way around? :confused: :chuckle:

    I've just remembered to ask...

    Would this worm infestation cause the fish to be 'run down' causing 'other' problems? like bacterial infections & ulcers?
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    So the next question is where did they come from......?
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    Hi can some one pm me me or post USA sites where I can obtain Panacur and other meds.

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    Check your PM, Cheers, Mick B:D
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    Panacur can be purchased legally over the counter in the UK.
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    I usually add flubendazole and praziquantal to both the treatment water and food when I de-worm discus. Flubendazole is not readily soluble in water but what little that does manage to dissolve is very helpful.

    After they have apparently recovered enough to be returned to the main tank(s). I consider it good practice to feed all the discus medicated food containing these two meds once a day for up to one month. It will cause no harm to the fish but it is never possible to completely eliminate all the parasites in a single treatment.

    I am mainly interested in wild discus and I consider it reasonable to repeat feeding them the medicated foods once a day of about two to four weeks once or twice a year.

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